Comments on: Behave, or you won’t get that bike lane!

By: Treadly and Me

Treadly and Me — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:47:31 +0000

O-kay, let's call an end to that particular line of discussion. You've each had a shot and if you want to take it further, take it somewhere else.

For what it's worth, I suggest you two go and have a beer together—you'll probably find you've got more in common than you think. (And yes, I do recall the particular aus.bicycle thread…)

By: ChrisS

ChrisS — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:26:58 +0000

It's actually physically impossible for ladies to be cockheads and Mark Horner, in retrospect, you did dig a hole for yourself on aus.bicycle. No one else put you up to posting the sheer amount of silliness you did, so consider it a own goal of your own creation.

And if you're still stewing in your own bile over a newgroup discussion from over two years ago, maybe you should really consider a referral to a specialist?

Cardigan-wearing? Think more Goodies, Mountain Goat Beer or Muse t-shirt with a Sugoi jacket and a nice pair of cycling shoes.

Have a nice day. ;)

By: BAC Bikes

BAC Bikes — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:19:10 +0000

I got my head bitten off a few years ago on aus.bicycle by scared little tweed cardigan-wearing ‘don’t rock the boat or we’ll all fall in’ types (cfsmtb – are you listening? you are still a c*ckhead IMHO) for suggesting that, as most road infrastructure is built to regulate car traffic, a substantial part of it has no relevance to bike traffic, and were it not for legal strictures, could be usefully and safely ignored, much as happens in Asian countries. Bikes rule, and cars kill – here and over there. What about, as the extended comment first up suggested, bikes be acknowledged as vehicles, have primacy on the roads along with pedestrians, roller bladers and skateboarders (any self-propelled means of transport, much like ‘Steam gives way to sail’ on the seas) and cars, buses, trucks trams and motorbikes/scooters all have to wait for us and for our little bike signal to go red before they get a go? Hello Copenhagen – for real, not just some token, poxy, dangerous bike ‘lanes’ (read ‘drains’) and a better city for all, and not just motor industry apparatchiks.

By: Treadly and Me

Treadly and Me — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:38:55 +0000

In fairness, he's not actually a car salesman but even if he were, that wouldn't prevent him also being a cyclist.

Equality before the law is exactly what I'm about here. Different cyclists have different views on what is "good" infrastructure for cyclists, but providing that infrastructure does not and should not depend on cyclists being good little girls and boys. Apart from anything else, that's an unrealistic expectation of any group of road users.

By: jimmay

jimmay — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:12:01 +0000

It is a great positive that a car salesman is speaking on behalf of cyclists.

However, I would have thought that it is assumed that all road users obey the rules of the road. If and when they don’t however, we already have mechanisms in place for dealing with them in the form of fines and/or demerit points.

I would love to see, in the way of balance, an opinion piece that suggests the removal of a freeway because a select few have been speeding or drink driving.