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	<title>Comments on: Speedlinking 23 May 2008</title>
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	<description>Work is just something I do between bike rides</description>
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		<title>By: Treadly and Me</title>
		<link>http://treadly.net/2008/05/23/speedlinking-23-may-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1295</link>
		<dc:creator>Treadly and Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 12:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Correction: it appears that these particular rumble strips are made from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bv.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9337&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bursts of paint&lt;/a&gt; rather than plastic buttons. No less slippery though, apparently.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for a similar strip &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bv.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9389&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;installed then removed in Chandler Highway&lt;/a&gt; within a couple of days&#8212;what the heck is going on there?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: it appears that these particular rumble strips are made from <a href="http://www.bv.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9337" rel="nofollow">bursts of paint</a> rather than plastic buttons. No less slippery though, apparently.</p>

<p>As for a similar strip <a href="http://www.bv.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9389" rel="nofollow">installed then removed in Chandler Highway</a> within a couple of days&mdash;what the heck is going on there?</p>
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		<title>By: Treadly and Me</title>
		<link>http://treadly.net/2008/05/23/speedlinking-23-may-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1294</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 05:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yep, I&#039;ll pay that. I didn&#039;t think of that, but I should have. I&#039;m careful to avoid catseyes and those other little white plastic &#039;button&#039; lane markers you often get at intersections&#8212;and what&#039;s a rumble strip but a line of those little buttons?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wonder if a smooth edged bump (like a very low speed hump) along the edge of a bike lane wouldn&#039;t serve the same purpose without causing the same hazard to bikes?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I&#8217;ll pay that. I didn&#8217;t think of that, but I should have. I&#8217;m careful to avoid catseyes and those other little white plastic &#8216;button&#8217; lane markers you often get at intersections&mdash;and what&#8217;s a rumble strip but a line of those little buttons?</p>

<p>I wonder if a smooth edged bump (like a very low speed hump) along the edge of a bike lane wouldn&#8217;t serve the same purpose without causing the same hazard to bikes?</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
		<link>http://treadly.net/2008/05/23/speedlinking-23-may-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1293</link>
		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 23:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cyclists in the United States are generally opposed to rumble strips because they can cause problems for cyclists. The exception is if there is a demonstrated history of run-off-the-road accidents.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If the cyclist must leave the cycle lane for any reason, you have these bumps to contend with, and anything big enough to get a motorist&#039;s attention is enough to cause a wheel diversion crash for a cyclist.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A few years ago in Colorado I was passing another cyclist when the bike lane line I was riding on suddenly became a rumble strip that I didn&#039;t see until I was right on it. I had trucks passing to my left and a bicycle to my right; I hit the brakes to merge back right but still bent up both wheels and crashed pretty badly at about 30 mph.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclists in the United States are generally opposed to rumble strips because they can cause problems for cyclists. The exception is if there is a demonstrated history of run-off-the-road accidents.</p>

<p>If the cyclist must leave the cycle lane for any reason, you have these bumps to contend with, and anything big enough to get a motorist&#8217;s attention is enough to cause a wheel diversion crash for a cyclist.</p>

<p>A few years ago in Colorado I was passing another cyclist when the bike lane line I was riding on suddenly became a rumble strip that I didn&#8217;t see until I was right on it. I had trucks passing to my left and a bicycle to my right; I hit the brakes to merge back right but still bent up both wheels and crashed pretty badly at about 30 mph.</p>
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		<title>By: Treadly and Me</title>
		<link>http://treadly.net/2008/05/23/speedlinking-23-may-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1292</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 06:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hmm, maybe. As protection for an &lt;em&gt;individual&lt;/em&gt; cyclist, I think the rumble strips are useless&#8212;once a car has its wheel on the strip it&#039;s already too close. But the purpose of the rumble strip appears to be to improve &quot;the communication to drivers about the bicycle space&quot;, presumably to make the bike lane a safe space overall. In this respect, I think they are worth trying.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, maybe. As protection for an <em>individual</em> cyclist, I think the rumble strips are useless&mdash;once a car has its wheel on the strip it&#8217;s already too close. But the purpose of the rumble strip appears to be to improve &#8220;the communication to drivers about the bicycle space&#8221;, presumably to make the bike lane a safe space overall. In this respect, I think they are worth trying.</p>
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		<title>By: hielke</title>
		<link>http://treadly.net/2008/05/23/speedlinking-23-may-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1291</link>
		<dc:creator>hielke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 11:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I tried the rumble edge by car the other day -after making sure I wasn&#039;t going to hit anyone. Should you be asleep as a driver and slowly wonder into the bikelane then yes, this rumble strip makes sense. But other than that, I don&#039;t really see how it is (practically) different from a normal line or more helpful. As long as this doesn&#039;t take up $$ that would otherwise be spend on say, repainting the median on the Gardener&#039;s Creek path, I think its an ok gimmick. But knowing money doesn&#039;t grow on trees it really looks like a look-we-are-doing-something-but-not-really initiative that has a significant opportunity cost.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried the rumble edge by car the other day -after making sure I wasn&#8217;t going to hit anyone. Should you be asleep as a driver and slowly wonder into the bikelane then yes, this rumble strip makes sense. But other than that, I don&#8217;t really see how it is (practically) different from a normal line or more helpful. As long as this doesn&#8217;t take up $$ that would otherwise be spend on say, repainting the median on the Gardener&#8217;s Creek path, I think its an ok gimmick. But knowing money doesn&#8217;t grow on trees it really looks like a look-we-are-doing-something-but-not-really initiative that has a significant opportunity cost.</p>
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