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	<title>Comments on: Clear for take-off on the Gardiners Creek Trail</title>
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	<description>Work is just something I do between bike rides</description>
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		<title>By: Treadly and Me</title>
		<link>http://treadly.net/2007/05/05/clear-for-take-off-on-the-gardiners-creek-trail/comment-page-1/#comment-736</link>
		<dc:creator>Treadly and Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 23:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m starting to wonder if they&#039;re not a maintenance nightmare in the making for a Council. Having provided them, the Council would presumably have a duty to keep them working. How many lights are allowed to fail or be obscured by debris before there&#039;s a serious legal liability (e.g. if someone crashes because of &quot;inadequate&quot; public lighting)?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This stretch of the trail is also subject to inundation when the creek floods, so it&#039;ll also be interesting to see how they withstand being immersed in muddy water. They must be completely sealed but I can&#039;t wait to see them shining out from under four or five inches of water!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m starting to wonder if they&#8217;re not a maintenance nightmare in the making for a Council. Having provided them, the Council would presumably have a duty to keep them working. How many lights are allowed to fail or be obscured by debris before there&#8217;s a serious legal liability (e.g. if someone crashes because of &#8220;inadequate&#8221; public lighting)?</p>

<p>This stretch of the trail is also subject to inundation when the creek floods, so it&#8217;ll also be interesting to see how they withstand being immersed in muddy water. They must be completely sealed but I can&#8217;t wait to see them shining out from under four or five inches of water!</p>
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		<title>By: Zed</title>
		<link>http://treadly.net/2007/05/05/clear-for-take-off-on-the-gardiners-creek-trail/comment-page-1/#comment-735</link>
		<dc:creator>Zed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m busy having a quiete drink once it gets dark but I noticed these lights are also being installed on the boulevard from the Chandler highway steps towards Studley Park. ie on the boulevard bike training area. Boroondara council is developing their biccyle strategy right now and these lights have come up in &quot;feedback&quot; sessions. Probably best to say we all love em??&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m busy having a quiete drink once it gets dark but I noticed these lights are also being installed on the boulevard from the Chandler highway steps towards Studley Park. ie on the boulevard bike training area. Boroondara council is developing their biccyle strategy right now and these lights have come up in &#8220;feedback&#8221; sessions. Probably best to say we all love em??</p>
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		<title>By: Treadly and Me</title>
		<link>http://treadly.net/2007/05/05/clear-for-take-off-on-the-gardiners-creek-trail/comment-page-1/#comment-734</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 07:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Heh!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To be fair, a good number of joggers and walkers on Gardiners Creek Trail do carry/wear lights. And yes, I&#039;ve even seen a pooch with a red flashing light attached to its collar (true, that was awhile ago now).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Heh!</i></p>

<p>To be fair, a good number of joggers and walkers on Gardiners Creek Trail do carry/wear lights. And yes, I&#8217;ve even seen a pooch with a red flashing light attached to its collar (true, that was awhile ago now).</p>
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		<title>By: jimmay</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 05:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Now all you need to do is get the stealth dog walkers and cyclists to put some lights on ...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now all you need to do is get the stealth dog walkers and cyclists to put some lights on &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Treadly and Me</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 05:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I agree about the asphalt but I wonder if those fancy concrete edges will help at all? Time will tell, I suppose.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The other side of that bridge still needs improving: bad sight lines, a hole right in the middle where there used to be a post(!) and always loose sand right where you need to turn (just to add some excitement). In fact, the whole stretch of path from that bridge to Glen Iris wetlands now looks really poor by comparison with the improvements in Dorothy Laver Reserve&#8212;however with my track record it&#039;s probably best that I not go mouthing-off about that&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What eccles says sounds right: realignment of the creek bed probably does account for the occasional deviation of the council boundary. But generally speaking, if the Melways can be believed, it does follow the creek pretty closely.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I agree about the asphalt but I wonder if those fancy concrete edges will help at all? Time will tell, I suppose.</p>

<p>The other side of that bridge still needs improving: bad sight lines, a hole right in the middle where there used to be a post(!) and always loose sand right where you need to turn (just to add some excitement). In fact, the whole stretch of path from that bridge to Glen Iris wetlands now looks really poor by comparison with the improvements in Dorothy Laver Reserve&mdash;however with my track record it&#8217;s probably best that I not go mouthing-off about that&hellip;</p>

<p>What eccles says sounds right: realignment of the creek bed probably does account for the occasional deviation of the council boundary. But generally speaking, if the Melways can be believed, it does follow the creek pretty closely.</p>
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