Comments on: Chances are you are NOT a safe and patient driver http://treadly.net/2006/08/23/you-are-not-a-safe-driver/ Work is just something I do between bike rides Fri, 04 May 2012 07:22:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Treadly and Me http://treadly.net/2006/08/23/you-are-not-a-safe-driver/comment-page-1/#comment-283 Treadly and Me Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:36:13 +0000 http://treadly.thingoid.com/?p=208#comment-283 <p>I think we need to be careful in making comparisons between measures of "offenders caught" and public opinion in general.</p> <p>I had the same concerns as pedaller about Mr Hogan's comment about the "amount of people caught on random breath testing". The AAMI index is a study of attitude and self-reported behaviour—Mr Hogan is talking about how many people the police have caught. These are two quite different things.</p> I think we need to be careful in making comparisons between measures of “offenders caught” and public opinion in general.

I had the same concerns as pedaller about Mr Hogan’s comment about the “amount of people caught on random breath testing”. The AAMI index is a study of attitude and self-reported behaviour—Mr Hogan is talking about how many people the police have caught. These are two quite different things.

]]> By: Phil http://treadly.net/2006/08/23/you-are-not-a-safe-driver/comment-page-1/#comment-282 Phil Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:59:25 +0000 http://treadly.thingoid.com/?p=208#comment-282 <p>The disconnect is in full view at the <a href="http://blogs.news.com.au/news/crime/index.php/news/comments/pedalling_safety/" rel="nofollow">Gotcha Blog</a> where cyclists have taken a hammering from our motoring friends. They have no idea about the consequences of their driving habits on other road users. And of course the AAMI study suggests that they have a real problem with each other.</p> The disconnect is in full view at the Gotcha Blog where cyclists have taken a hammering from our motoring friends. They have no idea about the consequences of their driving habits on other road users. And of course the AAMI study suggests that they have a real problem with each other.

]]> By: pedaller http://treadly.net/2006/08/23/you-are-not-a-safe-driver/comment-page-1/#comment-281 pedaller Wed, 23 Aug 2006 08:57:57 +0000 http://treadly.thingoid.com/?p=208#comment-281 <p>I'm a little concerned over the remarks made by the Tasmanian Road Safety Task Force chairman Paul Hogan regarding the reduction in numbers of people caught drink driving. If I wanted to show a reduction in drink driving I could any or all of the following:</p> <ol> <li>reduce the number of people breath tested</li> <li>only undertake random breath tests at times when people are less to be under the influence, eg, 9:30am on a Tuesday morning</li> <li>only undertake random breath testing in places where people are less likely to be under the influence, eg, outside a mosque on Friday</li> <li>maintain the current levels of breath testing, but only test in well known locations that can be avoided by drunk drivers</li> <li>maintain the current levels of breath testing but publicise where the booze buses will be in advance</li> </ol> <p>Now I'm not suggesting that the Tasmanians have actually done any of this, I'm just trying to point out that a reduction in the numbers of people caught drink driving need not bear any relation to the numbers of people actually driving under the influence.</p> <p>In much the same way AAMI's survey of some 2,000 people could have been manipulated, but the data from crashes is probably quite a representative picture of the situation.</p> I’m a little concerned over the remarks made by the Tasmanian Road Safety Task Force chairman Paul Hogan regarding the reduction in numbers of people caught drink driving. If I wanted to show a reduction in drink driving I could any or all of the following:

  1. reduce the number of people breath tested
  2. only undertake random breath tests at times when people are less to be under the influence, eg, 9:30am on a Tuesday morning
  3. only undertake random breath testing in places where people are less likely to be under the influence, eg, outside a mosque on Friday
  4. maintain the current levels of breath testing, but only test in well known locations that can be avoided by drunk drivers
  5. maintain the current levels of breath testing but publicise where the booze buses will be in advance

Now I’m not suggesting that the Tasmanians have actually done any of this, I’m just trying to point out that a reduction in the numbers of people caught drink driving need not bear any relation to the numbers of people actually driving under the influence.

In much the same way AAMI’s survey of some 2,000 people could have been manipulated, but the data from crashes is probably quite a representative picture of the situation.

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