Comments on: Turn-and-look: some data http://treadly.net/2006/02/22/turn-and-look-some-data/ Work is just something I do between bike rides Fri, 04 May 2012 07:22:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Marc http://treadly.net/2006/02/22/turn-and-look-some-data/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Marc Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:49:28 +0000 http://treadly.thingoid.com/?p=50#comment-41 <p>Fantastic analysis, this is great data to have, thanks a lot. I'm new to using the bell and I like to warn people before overtaking them and I always use it when I'm turning in a corner where I don't see too far ahead because of the vegetation, or next to fences.</p> Fantastic analysis, this is great data to have, thanks a lot. I’m new to using the bell and I like to warn people before overtaking them and I always use it when I’m turning in a corner where I don’t see too far ahead because of the vegetation, or next to fences.

]]> By: urbanbicyclist http://treadly.net/2006/02/22/turn-and-look-some-data/comment-page-1/#comment-40 urbanbicyclist Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:56:29 +0000 http://treadly.thingoid.com/?p=50#comment-40 <p>Fantastic study...</p> <p>Next factor to analyse, in my view the most important... Time given between anticipated overtaking and cyclists bell ringing.</p> <p>My hypothesis: Many cyclists ding too late, and turn and look becomes a problem. one or two bad experiences early on in a bell dinging career teach cyclists not to ding, for fear of becoming just as bad as the angry horney driver that we all know and love.</p> <p>Hypothesis part b: Bicycle bells available in Australia are tinny and crummy, and don't have the volume or traditional bicycle bell sound that people recognise (resulting in more turn and looks)</p> <p>My daily solution, get an Indian bicycle bell from the Indian bicycle shop in StKilda (cnr Barkley and Grey St for $10) or some similar Asian bell from China or Indonesia and then ring your bell much further ahead of overtaking time.</p> <p>People can turn and look as much as they want, and the figure everything out before you get there..</p> <p>This new behavour has resulted in a massive increase in the number of thank-you's I receive from pedestrians (amazing, I am humbled).</p> <p>Ring Early, Ring Often, Ring Again.</p> Fantastic study…

Next factor to analyse, in my view the most important… Time given between anticipated overtaking and cyclists bell ringing.

My hypothesis: Many cyclists ding too late, and turn and look becomes a problem. one or two bad experiences early on in a bell dinging career teach cyclists not to ding, for fear of becoming just as bad as the angry horney driver that we all know and love.

Hypothesis part b: Bicycle bells available in Australia are tinny and crummy, and don’t have the volume or traditional bicycle bell sound that people recognise (resulting in more turn and looks)

My daily solution, get an Indian bicycle bell from the Indian bicycle shop in StKilda (cnr Barkley and Grey St for $10) or some similar Asian bell from China or Indonesia and then ring your bell much further ahead of overtaking time.

People can turn and look as much as they want, and the figure everything out before you get there..

This new behavour has resulted in a massive increase in the number of thank-you’s I receive from pedestrians (amazing, I am humbled).

Ring Early, Ring Often, Ring Again.

]]> By: pedaller http://treadly.net/2006/02/22/turn-and-look-some-data/comment-page-1/#comment-39 pedaller Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:45:55 +0000 http://treadly.thingoid.com/?p=50#comment-39 <p>Good for you Treadly, there's nothing to compare to the scientific method. I guess we now need to enlist the help of lots of cyclists on different shared path routes and at different times in order to reach some sort of consensus on this phenomenon. I guess I shall have to bite the bullet (bike handlebars) and even venture back onto shared paths in order to add my two-cents-worth to the discussion (and yes, I do try to avoid shared paths as much as possible especially in the mornings, evenings and weekends when they are filled with pedestrians, walkers, joggers, runners, dog-walkers and recreational cyclists especially those with small children).</p> Good for you Treadly, there’s nothing to compare to the scientific method. I guess we now need to enlist the help of lots of cyclists on different shared path routes and at different times in order to reach some sort of consensus on this phenomenon. I guess I shall have to bite the bullet (bike handlebars) and even venture back onto shared paths in order to add my two-cents-worth to the discussion (and yes, I do try to avoid shared paths as much as possible especially in the mornings, evenings and weekends when they are filled with pedestrians, walkers, joggers, runners, dog-walkers and recreational cyclists especially those with small children).

]]>